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Unfortunately for just about everyone ever, this is going to be an OC meta post. It pertains to Griffith, who is naive, dangerous and emotionally stunted, and to D'Ivann, who is at least one of those things. BUT WHICH ONE OOOOH I would say read on to find out but really I advise turning back and living free. YOU POOR PEOPLE.....
Unfortunately I am going to go right ahead and put a warning here. Talking of stalker tendencies, and... probably violence as well (possibly sexual IDK YET). THANKS GUYS.
Griffith... I have had to start this post a few times, because Griffith has really surprised me in his current post and it's really altered the shape of things I have to say about him. But I suppose firstly I better establish a little more of who he is.
Griffith has been raised in a sort of hostel environment from his early/mid-teens, living at the behest of the state as one of many otherwise unwanted children set to be put to some greater use when time is right. Being one of the eldest there, time'll probably be right for him sooner than most, and is indeed running pretty short right now. Hard to be a child at age 20, although he does a pretty good job at it to be honest, brat that he is. He doesn't have friendshis own age pretty much at all, though he's plenty good at picking petty fights. Griffith is lonely, but doesn't really know it. Griffith is self-absorbed, self-important, self-pitying, melodramatic, and really more dangerous than is immediately obvious.
He's also kind of a stalker, oops. Let's talk about that.
The Council's Children, that being the group he's listed within, is an initiative set into place by a noblewoman named Prièstirdalan. Tir (because heck knows I'm not typing Prièstirdalan again) is not mine to speak of at length, but I think it's fair to say that she didn't come up with this out of the kindness of her heart. She's an extremely ambitious woman with very little patience for anyone, and there may well be some moves toward furthering her power in the near future.
Griffith is obsessed with Tir. He has been for a long time. He barely knows the woman, but when has that ever stopped anyone? It's never mattered how much other people mistreat him or malign him, if he can impress Lady Tir or be of use to Lady Tir or even just catch the approving gaze of Lady Tir then that is all that counts.
He's.... very fixated on her, in a way that doesn't know if it wants to be maternal or sexual or something else entirely. It's a little hard to pin down... I mean, he doesn't have outright sexual thoughts about her, but he definitely waxes on how beautiful she is. He desperately wants her approval, but he doesn't consider himself as particularly worthy of being alongside her. He wants to be protected, I think, which is definitely a motherly element in how he views her, and he's desperate to impress her. It really is all about that seeking approval more than anything else, he's pathetic and childlike and he's muddying it with the early leanings of unpracticed sexuality but really that isn't what he's looking for from her.
It's sort of sad, really, until you think too hard about his behaviour. He's systematically awful to everyone he knows but laments and resents the fact that everyone holds him with such low regard. He spends every free moment he can reasonably afford outside Tir's manor, and when he's not there he's picking fights with those he should be trying to approach, or else wasting hours wandering the noble districts trying to pretend as though he belongs (he stands out painfully). His behaviour has been in dire need of being reined in for a long time now, for his own benefit and to prevent it getting anywhere more out of hand.
In his most recent thread, Griffith finally had what her perceived as a grand opportunity to present himself and show his worth and quality. It fell absolutely flat, and I was just... astounded by how much heartache immediately followed. I couldn't even finish reading the reply he received at first because he was reacting so brokenly to it, I had to take some time to other things before coming back. He was just... devastated, completely humiliated and utterly taken aback, utterly unprepared for the easy scornful dismissal.
The rest of that thread went somewhere else entirely, and for all that it continued down a heartbreaking road at least it laid the groundwork for something that could VASTLY improve Griffith's chances of being a decent human being. It certainly laid the groundwork for a better life for a certain Cyrel, the only person who has been consistently kind to Griffith if he only realised how to recognise it. Cyrel is a servant within Tir's home, a timid unfortunate young woman born mute and only able to communicate in a manner we'll just call telepathically for simplicities sake. In an ideal world, she and Griffith will work things out and live together forever and I will be very happy. For all that he is rude and assuming and abrupt and not great by any stretch, he is definitely at his best where she is concerned, and he really pleasantly surprised me in their final comments together. Cyrel was wonderful too, ahh, poor brave downtrodden thing. But for all that the topic of Griffith and Cyrel deserves discussing, fact is, Tir is the big issue and that hasn't changed.
You don't just give up an obsession because of one incident. Griffith might have convinced himself that he loves Tir, but the fact is he has never known anything about her - that's the sort of love that very easily twists into hate. Tir dismissed him without thought, and she was grossly blasé about the well-being of another Council Child gravely ill. Both of these things have left a huge impression on a Griffith who for the moment is still startled and reeling. But he's going to settle these feelings, and I don't think it's going anywhere good.
Cyrel told him that Tir's behaviour toward him was the same behaviour she would display toward anyone. That led him to a few quick conclusions. One, that he was currently just the same as everyone else in her eyes, and therefore two, he'd been wasting his time. It would be nice if I could say that that means he'd given up, will move on to better pursuits or maybe even just spend some time being melancholy. But I don't think that's going to be the case. No, can't drop a fixation as easy as that. If he can't impress Tir, then he'll impress himself upon Tir, whether she wills it or no. He'll show her that he's not someone to be dismissed out of hand. She made a mistake treating him that way, and Griffith isn't in a state of mind where he can just let that go. This incident hasn't led to a healthy cutting of ties, it's just knotted the connection into something more obviously foul.
A lot is going to depend on what happens in the next thread. Tir is going to follow up on the information Griffith gave her, and he will distantly witness this occurring. If Tir acknowledges him with even the faintest positive, just a glance and a nod is really all it would take, then he'll be right back to square one. Just the tiniest hint of positive enforcement and this will all be forgotten, forgiven, he'll have taken the right course and everything will be roses. He pleased her, his Lady Tir, ahhh, and away he will blissfully go. If she just fails to acknowledge him at all (most likely), then he'll continue slowly down the sort of path I have outlined above. No matter what positive he obtains from the situation with Cyrel, no matter what comes out of his upcoming confrontation with Drael (he who manages the Council's Children on a daily basis and will not be at all impressed when he learns just who has been telling tales); no matter what happens elsewhere, Griffith won't be able to let this situation lie.
If Tir should say or indicate anything negative toward him, further dismissal or some look of disgust or (heaven forbid) a command to Drael to keep these damn children on tighter leashes for fuck sake, well, honestly, Griffith will fly off the handle right there and then. He'll need to be fought back or else he will just smack her and scream abuse at the fucking bitch, how fucking dare she treat him like that, he loved her and this is how she pays him for risks taken on her behalf? Cuss cuss cuss, I wish I could say he wouldn't do something so utterly not okay, but nope, he will fly at her if she gives him so much as the faintest hint of cause. That is the sort of precarious place he is in, unstable dispossessed thing that he is. Dear oh dear.
All of this might not come to anything. There are an awful lot of factors in this setting, and any number of things could completely unsettle everything I've written here. But the key component in what I'm saying is that, essentially, Griffith won't be forgetting Tir easily. No matter what happens, that fixation isn't going away. Possessive love, it seems, really doesn't take much to warp into vengeful graceless hate.
This post is already far too long and is probably creeping people out, so I'll try to keep this part about D'Ivann briefer.
I feel sort of silly trying to describe D'Ivann physically, because it feels like such terrible pandering. D'Ivann is beautiful. D'Ivann has gorgeous expansive white wings, long blonde hair, golden eyes, you just name it. He also has super accelerated healing! He is quite the work of art, which is to a certain degree how he makes his living. Being beautiful and appealing, part of a traveling carnival. Unfortunately it's more destructive than that, a penchant toward violent pit matches that D'Ivann is more or less designed to lose (and not for a lack of fighting back), so it's also a pretty bloody painful existence. But there you go, D'Ivann.
D'Ivann sought out the carnival himself after hearing about the man who runs it. Talbot is pretty much the visual stereotype of hell against D'Ivann's stereotypical heaven, dark-haired and dark-eyed, curling horns and the ability to transform into something far more plainly demonic. D'Ivann sought him out over several many weeks, and when he did finally track the carnival down he attacked Talbot and... did not succeed in killing him. And has been with the carnival ever since, taking both offered opportunities and chances stolen to try and achieve what he first failed to do.
I've been trying to figure out for a while just what he intended to achieve with that. I've written D'Ivann's origin (which I would like to here if I wasn't an ass and ever actually shared things), but it never quite tipped me off as to his reasoning. Today, though, in writing his first actual RP post, I realised some further details that I think cast some pretty significant light over things.
D'Ivann largely considers himself non-human. He has no particular feelings toward humans one way or another, and is perfectly within his comfort zone communicating within confines of humanity. Has no issue with those others at the carnival not quite so set apart. But he considers himself outside of that, and he considers Talbot outside of that as well.
At first I'd thought that his attempts to kill Talbot might be some manifestation of self-loathing, and I'm not going to completely dismiss the notion. I think there is a little of that in there. Moreso, though, he... enacts inhuman behaviour. I'm not sure it's completely conscious, but it's not all unconscious either, it's definitely something he's learned himself into. He wasn't born this way, this is definitely something he's taught himself or bought into somewhere, something that... feels more correct to him somehow, is the way he naturally flows now. It's hard to explain...
He attacks Talbot because they're not human. Because they're animals, they're wild, they're things that shouldn't be. He attacks Talbot because it's instinctively the right action, and he yields to Talbot because Talbot wins, Talbot overpowers and dominates and forces surrender. It's a very primal sort of dominance/submission display, and I really wasn't aware he was viewing things that way until I wrote his post up earlier and same to realise what it means to him that Talbot does force it in such a particular manner, does take that measure of having him yield instead of just beating him past the point of communication. It's a distinction that holds the entire shape, it seems, of what all of this means from D'Ivann's perspective.
Each morning sees scales reset, sees chances renewed and every battle fought is undertaken with utmost sincerity (with exception of some of those put on display for carnival audiences, although a good deal of those are genuine too). He does mean to kill Talbot, and I don't think he likes him. But so much of it is... raw shifts of emotion, rooted in a sort of wild bestial violence. I think Talbot can probably see it, too, that sort of... feral energy that goes into a lot of D'Ivann's fighting. It's very concealed otherwise, but when physicality becomes involved that's the place D'Ivann goes. Somewhere feral and primal and vicious, until he someday succeeds or is more likely tormented into surrender.
Ahhh, this has all taken far too long to type and I don't think I've done a good job of explaining anything and I feel very childish and silly so I think I should probably stop here. JUST this post is dedicated to yet more horribly disturbed damaged OC's, and next time I am going to write about some of my ladies damn it because they are wonderful too. But not now. Now I slink away in shame, ahhh bad post....
Unfortunately I am going to go right ahead and put a warning here. Talking of stalker tendencies, and... probably violence as well (possibly sexual IDK YET). THANKS GUYS.
Griffith... I have had to start this post a few times, because Griffith has really surprised me in his current post and it's really altered the shape of things I have to say about him. But I suppose firstly I better establish a little more of who he is.
Griffith has been raised in a sort of hostel environment from his early/mid-teens, living at the behest of the state as one of many otherwise unwanted children set to be put to some greater use when time is right. Being one of the eldest there, time'll probably be right for him sooner than most, and is indeed running pretty short right now. Hard to be a child at age 20, although he does a pretty good job at it to be honest, brat that he is. He doesn't have friends
He's also kind of a stalker, oops. Let's talk about that.
The Council's Children, that being the group he's listed within, is an initiative set into place by a noblewoman named Prièstirdalan. Tir (because heck knows I'm not typing Prièstirdalan again) is not mine to speak of at length, but I think it's fair to say that she didn't come up with this out of the kindness of her heart. She's an extremely ambitious woman with very little patience for anyone, and there may well be some moves toward furthering her power in the near future.
Griffith is obsessed with Tir. He has been for a long time. He barely knows the woman, but when has that ever stopped anyone? It's never mattered how much other people mistreat him or malign him, if he can impress Lady Tir or be of use to Lady Tir or even just catch the approving gaze of Lady Tir then that is all that counts.
He's.... very fixated on her, in a way that doesn't know if it wants to be maternal or sexual or something else entirely. It's a little hard to pin down... I mean, he doesn't have outright sexual thoughts about her, but he definitely waxes on how beautiful she is. He desperately wants her approval, but he doesn't consider himself as particularly worthy of being alongside her. He wants to be protected, I think, which is definitely a motherly element in how he views her, and he's desperate to impress her. It really is all about that seeking approval more than anything else, he's pathetic and childlike and he's muddying it with the early leanings of unpracticed sexuality but really that isn't what he's looking for from her.
It's sort of sad, really, until you think too hard about his behaviour. He's systematically awful to everyone he knows but laments and resents the fact that everyone holds him with such low regard. He spends every free moment he can reasonably afford outside Tir's manor, and when he's not there he's picking fights with those he should be trying to approach, or else wasting hours wandering the noble districts trying to pretend as though he belongs (he stands out painfully). His behaviour has been in dire need of being reined in for a long time now, for his own benefit and to prevent it getting anywhere more out of hand.
In his most recent thread, Griffith finally had what her perceived as a grand opportunity to present himself and show his worth and quality. It fell absolutely flat, and I was just... astounded by how much heartache immediately followed. I couldn't even finish reading the reply he received at first because he was reacting so brokenly to it, I had to take some time to other things before coming back. He was just... devastated, completely humiliated and utterly taken aback, utterly unprepared for the easy scornful dismissal.
The rest of that thread went somewhere else entirely, and for all that it continued down a heartbreaking road at least it laid the groundwork for something that could VASTLY improve Griffith's chances of being a decent human being. It certainly laid the groundwork for a better life for a certain Cyrel, the only person who has been consistently kind to Griffith if he only realised how to recognise it. Cyrel is a servant within Tir's home, a timid unfortunate young woman born mute and only able to communicate in a manner we'll just call telepathically for simplicities sake. In an ideal world, she and Griffith will work things out and live together forever and I will be very happy. For all that he is rude and assuming and abrupt and not great by any stretch, he is definitely at his best where she is concerned, and he really pleasantly surprised me in their final comments together. Cyrel was wonderful too, ahh, poor brave downtrodden thing. But for all that the topic of Griffith and Cyrel deserves discussing, fact is, Tir is the big issue and that hasn't changed.
You don't just give up an obsession because of one incident. Griffith might have convinced himself that he loves Tir, but the fact is he has never known anything about her - that's the sort of love that very easily twists into hate. Tir dismissed him without thought, and she was grossly blasé about the well-being of another Council Child gravely ill. Both of these things have left a huge impression on a Griffith who for the moment is still startled and reeling. But he's going to settle these feelings, and I don't think it's going anywhere good.
Cyrel told him that Tir's behaviour toward him was the same behaviour she would display toward anyone. That led him to a few quick conclusions. One, that he was currently just the same as everyone else in her eyes, and therefore two, he'd been wasting his time. It would be nice if I could say that that means he'd given up, will move on to better pursuits or maybe even just spend some time being melancholy. But I don't think that's going to be the case. No, can't drop a fixation as easy as that. If he can't impress Tir, then he'll impress himself upon Tir, whether she wills it or no. He'll show her that he's not someone to be dismissed out of hand. She made a mistake treating him that way, and Griffith isn't in a state of mind where he can just let that go. This incident hasn't led to a healthy cutting of ties, it's just knotted the connection into something more obviously foul.
A lot is going to depend on what happens in the next thread. Tir is going to follow up on the information Griffith gave her, and he will distantly witness this occurring. If Tir acknowledges him with even the faintest positive, just a glance and a nod is really all it would take, then he'll be right back to square one. Just the tiniest hint of positive enforcement and this will all be forgotten, forgiven, he'll have taken the right course and everything will be roses. He pleased her, his Lady Tir, ahhh, and away he will blissfully go. If she just fails to acknowledge him at all (most likely), then he'll continue slowly down the sort of path I have outlined above. No matter what positive he obtains from the situation with Cyrel, no matter what comes out of his upcoming confrontation with Drael (he who manages the Council's Children on a daily basis and will not be at all impressed when he learns just who has been telling tales); no matter what happens elsewhere, Griffith won't be able to let this situation lie.
If Tir should say or indicate anything negative toward him, further dismissal or some look of disgust or (heaven forbid) a command to Drael to keep these damn children on tighter leashes for fuck sake, well, honestly, Griffith will fly off the handle right there and then. He'll need to be fought back or else he will just smack her and scream abuse at the fucking bitch, how fucking dare she treat him like that, he loved her and this is how she pays him for risks taken on her behalf? Cuss cuss cuss, I wish I could say he wouldn't do something so utterly not okay, but nope, he will fly at her if she gives him so much as the faintest hint of cause. That is the sort of precarious place he is in, unstable dispossessed thing that he is. Dear oh dear.
All of this might not come to anything. There are an awful lot of factors in this setting, and any number of things could completely unsettle everything I've written here. But the key component in what I'm saying is that, essentially, Griffith won't be forgetting Tir easily. No matter what happens, that fixation isn't going away. Possessive love, it seems, really doesn't take much to warp into vengeful graceless hate.
This post is already far too long and is probably creeping people out, so I'll try to keep this part about D'Ivann briefer.
I feel sort of silly trying to describe D'Ivann physically, because it feels like such terrible pandering. D'Ivann is beautiful. D'Ivann has gorgeous expansive white wings, long blonde hair, golden eyes, you just name it. He also has super accelerated healing! He is quite the work of art, which is to a certain degree how he makes his living. Being beautiful and appealing, part of a traveling carnival. Unfortunately it's more destructive than that, a penchant toward violent pit matches that D'Ivann is more or less designed to lose (and not for a lack of fighting back), so it's also a pretty bloody painful existence. But there you go, D'Ivann.
D'Ivann sought out the carnival himself after hearing about the man who runs it. Talbot is pretty much the visual stereotype of hell against D'Ivann's stereotypical heaven, dark-haired and dark-eyed, curling horns and the ability to transform into something far more plainly demonic. D'Ivann sought him out over several many weeks, and when he did finally track the carnival down he attacked Talbot and... did not succeed in killing him. And has been with the carnival ever since, taking both offered opportunities and chances stolen to try and achieve what he first failed to do.
I've been trying to figure out for a while just what he intended to achieve with that. I've written D'Ivann's origin (which I would like to here if I wasn't an ass and ever actually shared things), but it never quite tipped me off as to his reasoning. Today, though, in writing his first actual RP post, I realised some further details that I think cast some pretty significant light over things.
D'Ivann largely considers himself non-human. He has no particular feelings toward humans one way or another, and is perfectly within his comfort zone communicating within confines of humanity. Has no issue with those others at the carnival not quite so set apart. But he considers himself outside of that, and he considers Talbot outside of that as well.
At first I'd thought that his attempts to kill Talbot might be some manifestation of self-loathing, and I'm not going to completely dismiss the notion. I think there is a little of that in there. Moreso, though, he... enacts inhuman behaviour. I'm not sure it's completely conscious, but it's not all unconscious either, it's definitely something he's learned himself into. He wasn't born this way, this is definitely something he's taught himself or bought into somewhere, something that... feels more correct to him somehow, is the way he naturally flows now. It's hard to explain...
He attacks Talbot because they're not human. Because they're animals, they're wild, they're things that shouldn't be. He attacks Talbot because it's instinctively the right action, and he yields to Talbot because Talbot wins, Talbot overpowers and dominates and forces surrender. It's a very primal sort of dominance/submission display, and I really wasn't aware he was viewing things that way until I wrote his post up earlier and same to realise what it means to him that Talbot does force it in such a particular manner, does take that measure of having him yield instead of just beating him past the point of communication. It's a distinction that holds the entire shape, it seems, of what all of this means from D'Ivann's perspective.
Each morning sees scales reset, sees chances renewed and every battle fought is undertaken with utmost sincerity (with exception of some of those put on display for carnival audiences, although a good deal of those are genuine too). He does mean to kill Talbot, and I don't think he likes him. But so much of it is... raw shifts of emotion, rooted in a sort of wild bestial violence. I think Talbot can probably see it, too, that sort of... feral energy that goes into a lot of D'Ivann's fighting. It's very concealed otherwise, but when physicality becomes involved that's the place D'Ivann goes. Somewhere feral and primal and vicious, until he someday succeeds or is more likely tormented into surrender.
Ahhh, this has all taken far too long to type and I don't think I've done a good job of explaining anything and I feel very childish and silly so I think I should probably stop here. JUST this post is dedicated to yet more horribly disturbed damaged OC's, and next time I am going to write about some of my ladies damn it because they are wonderful too. But not now. Now I slink away in shame, ahhh bad post....
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This gives me plenty of thoughts on Drael and Tir and has me wonder further how their argument is going to go... I can say confidently, though, that Tir has no personally positive feelings towards anything to do with the Children, and her biggest resentment at the moment is the fact that she's currently there trying to sort things out. The reason she has Kristopher between herself and the Children is so that she can't be accused of manipulating the project to her benefit (which is exactly her intent and the reason she started it in the first place). She doesn't like being seen there and doesn't want much to do with it other than the kids knowing she's the one who gave them this life and they should be grateful.
Personally (ahaha my sadist is showing...) I would like to see him try to fight her, fff, not because it would. Well, I mean, it wouldn't be too interesting, Drael would get in there and then there'd be a long period of "okay Griffith, I know you don't like me much, but talk to me what the fuck is going on. we all hate nobles but you can't just do that.", but I... would like to have Tir deal with it. Would certainly move other plots along much quicker... The worst thing to do to someone who's power hungry is show them what instances they're powerless in, I think. Ahhh goodness wonderful plot, I still don't like you very much Griffith but you are very interesting. :<
Before I get into talking about D'Ivann, ahh, I. How do I say this... I want to help you, if I can, feel comfortable sharing origins of his here? If that means helping to edit or just talking about that piece more, I will do it, and if it's just encouraging and reminding you that your writing is well worth being shared, I can do that too. I am not forcing, there is no disappointment either way, mumble mumble trying to be good...
I love hearing about D'Ivann's perspective here. It really adds... a further element to that enigmatic quality of him, and if it's not too base of me to say, that's. Another rather animalistic thing as well? If you look at a large carnivore, in documentaries and such, you always get the sense that there's something going on behind their eyes, but you can't tell what it is until you watch them in action. That is what this conversation brings to mind, ahh, and it's lovely.
I wish Talbot were a little less difficult so I could give an even halfway worthy response to this, but I do think he certainly can tell that... animalistic nature to D'Ivann's fighting, and I think that drives him further than he realises. I have mentioned that he loses control; I think, were he much less composed and practised and façade-ing, he'd be quite a lot more similar to D'Ivann. I think he's much more similar than he realises or accepts. But ahh it's wonderful, and it gives me this lovely mental image of two dominant male wolves or lions or something herding their pack along, but consistently at odds with one another because there should only be one. (Funny, that, terrible irony. The carnival of the damned, for all those discarded and despised by humanity, but it only has room for one inhumane creature.)
Good post, bad reply...
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Ahhh, such a deliciously long reply, you are so good to me *-*. I really can't wait to see more of Drael and Tir interacting, there are going to be fireworks. And, er, not the sexy party kind. I just can't wait to see it, haha.
And ahhh, you say it wouldn't be interesting but I think it sounds plenty interesting, gosh. I have all sorts of biases in that, admittedly. For one thing, I get way too much pleasure in writing Griffith quite regardless of whether he's particularly likeable or not - he's a delight of actualised characterisation, I can always follow where he ends up and why. He's wonderful to write, haha, and I really do want to scene something with him and Drael. Which is agreed to be happening anyway, but all the same, I adore Drael and seeing how he responds to situations, just about any possible suggestion that has Drael in the fray gets an A+ from the gargant school of planning.
But really, also, Tir. I like Tir for a lot of the reasons I like Lisette - seeing these female characters striving in what seems a relatively patriarchal society. I would say the key issues on both sides of our borders are more rooted in social class than gender equality (with defensive the less generous in these field imo, but offensive has horrible stances on other human rights, so). Regardless though, there are definite levels of patriarchy, and I like seeing how these different characters face that. So as much as it's a cruel thing to desire, I would love to see Tir faced with something where she's, as you say, powerless. Moreso, I'd love to see how she responds to and deals with it in the aftermath. I just want her as inflamed as possible, it would seem. Anything to further the furious power of Tir's ambition and drive.
By the way, Griffith, do you know what happens to loose cannons? They end up getting themselves killed. My advice, young man: calm down and make some friends. If there were a betting pool for War characters on the road to severe disaster, you'd have high odds. OR THAT'S WHAT I THINK. (Pretty sure both cousins would be up there too, on account of the horrible bomb that is every time they interact.)
Anyway, ahhh, moving on, you're so good to offer that. I don't know, I should read it back and maybe try and edit a bit myself, and then maybe... maybe go from there, ahhh. But you are, you are good, thank you. Your encouragement is a very precious thing to me :<
I'm supposed to be cooking things tonight, and as much I don't feel like eating it is starting to get sort of late. Which means you are denied any further response for the minute, I figure you would rather have half a comment now to break your day up a bit then a whole comment X time later. So I will get back to you! I am sorry, ahhh. Thank you, lovely youuu...
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I get pleasure out of reading Griffith, but that doesn't mean I have to like him. :| fffft. But ahh, I... realised? Either this morning or yesterday, and I'm sure I've known for a while, but Drael's not particularly. Smart. I think he's got all his points in wisdom rather than in int (though no where near the same extent as Daimd has wis o-k), with a few in charisma because he's sexy. I feel this is relevant to how he deals with... well, a lot of things. But it does make his responses interesting, I suppose, ahh, he is going to be so harried by the end of this day with Malis and Tir and Griffith, fff.
That is true, isn't it, overarching patriarchy abounds... Tir, of course, wants to insist that she'll never be made powerless, and if her body becomes an inhospitable place, she'll just leave it and observe from afar, but even something so much within her control as that would leave her... furious and disgusted. Having the ability to leave your body behind is one thing, but effectively being chased out of it? That's not having power--it's just depriving others of having power over you. That's what she'd fix on, I expect.
(... Veering off into convoluted sidenote territory, despite their class differences and foregone prejudices, I think Tir and Drael could actually comprehend one another well enough if they looked. Or at least, identify how the other works. Tir creates power for herself but oversteps the line of intimidation, the one that Drael manages so well. Drael has no particular drive or need for power, but he makes enough for himself that it's. Acceptable. I think he'd find Tir's way of doing things inelegant and overbearing, but she'd say the same thing about him--why go only so far, when you could follow through? Don't even pretend this makes sense, thoughts thoughts thoughts.)
Griffith versus Solus: who will self destruct first?! I think they're probably the two highest in that betting pool in either country, though there are plenty of people with hopeless useless plans or other foretold distaters. There's no betting on Kieran okay Kieran was fucked from the start. Mudfighting cousinsss...
I enjoy working through things, enjoy talking with creators to see... what it is they were going for on a certain point, picking at stupid little things, it's. Something I'd love to be able to do for you, but I also know it's hard to be on that receiving end, so truly, whatever is most appealing or comfortable to you. I do recommend trying to self-edit, though, ahh, I know whenever I explicitly ask for feedback it always seems to highlight the things I'd wanted to change/would have changed anyway...
Cook delicious meals, love, plenty of time later...
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I can definitely believe that regarding Drael, I have already told you how impressed Kris is by his "intuition" at least. Drael has a way of working things out that leaves Kris trailing with open mouthed, hahaha. And ahh, goodness, Drael is going to be wrung right through by the end of the day, isn't he? I'm glad to report that Griffith might add to the tears count as well, hahaha, HOW MANY CRYING CHILDREN CAN YOU STAND, DRAEL? Be brave, man, be brave....
I wish I could think of something more useful to say regarding Tir and Tir + Drael discussion, but mostly and I am just sitting here delighting in them both. I am very torn with you, Tir, a large part of me wants you to succeed in all endeavours but then that systematically worsens the lives of so many other characters I like, fhdjks. DARN IT...
Ahhh, Griffith and Solus. A-at least they both have someone to genuinely mourn them, ffft. /puts Kieran into a nice mossy box and keeps him somewhere safe forever :(
And ahhh, then perhaps we shall do this thing at some point? Not now, alas, it is already later than I'd realised (oh my god scowling at the time, I don't want it to be this late yet), but I do... definitely appreciate what you're suggesting, recognise many benefits to such a thing, ahhhh.
And we are talking about D'Ivann and carnival and such elsewhere, and it is all wonderful, ahhh /saves AIM logs forever